Shall I sell the bags or not - poll

[LuluNZ]

In light of the thread in the knitting section, it has come to my attention that the bags I have made to sell I probably shouldn't have as they are from a purchased pattern. They are made from stash with the intention of re-couping my costs of fabric and time as I no longer have a need for this fabric but love the way the bags look made up (and selling a bag is more practical than selling the fabric). I am going to work on my own pattern in a similar kind of style ie messenger bag style, but in the meantime I have 10 or so (give or take as I can't remember how many I still have sitting here already cut out to the pattern) sitting here ready to sell/swap.

So long story over, shall I sell the bags or use them for swaps/gifts?

[Gaia]

Sell them or swap them for something you need.
Since I could only choose one I said sell.

Now where do i see a pic of these bags that I've heard so much about?

[missgateau]

Contact the maker and check whether it's ok to sell them to simply recover your costs, or to make a small profit.

Otherwise maybe swapping for things you'd like would be a nice medium.

[LuluNZ]

Sell them or swap them for something you need.
Since I could only choose one I said sell.

Now where do i see a pic of these bags that I've heard so much about?

My homemade gallery Heather. They aren't as spectacular as you are probably thinking - just plain messenger bags really.

[mamacas]

SELL THEM!!!

although if you are wanting to swap i have plenty of yarn here

[LuluNZ]

Contact the maker and check whether it's ok to sell them to simply recover your costs, or to make a small profit.

Otherwise maybe swapping for things you'd like would be a nice medium.

It was a burda pattern. If it was online it would make it way easier to contact the maker.

[Wicked Knits]

I'd say swap, but it grates on me to break rules, so maybe I just see things strangely

[louloulou13]

Personally if it is from a big pattern company like burda, I would sell them, it is not like you are mass producing them or anything.

If it had been from a small designer I would have contacted them to ask permission as some are happy for you to sell provided you credit the pattern to them.

[missgateau]

Contact the maker and check whether it's ok to sell them to simply recover your costs, or to make a small profit.

Otherwise maybe swapping for things you'd like would be a nice medium.

It was a burda pattern. If it was online it would make it way easier to contact the maker.

Ah. Is there anything on the pattern mentioning copyright?

[Ashtons mummy]

Personally if it is from a big pattern company like burda, I would sell them, it is not like you are mass producing them or anything.

If it had been from a small designer I would have contacted them to ask permission as some are happy for you to sell provided you credit the pattern to them.

I agree, i emailed a designer today since ive had friends asking for something ive been making for my kids and they were happy for me to do so as long as I wasnt reproducing in huge amounts

[xmasangls]

From this site http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/Cop ... erns.shtml

A quick check of copyright records does not reveal any copyrights registered with the U.S. Copyright Office for clothing patterns by Simplicity, Butterick, or others. Paragon Patterns has no copyrights but on the web site for Paragon Patterns (http://www.paragonpatterns.com/CompanyPolicies.html) they claim all of their patterns are copyrighted. There are a lot of "patterns" copyrights and many are fabric patterns. Why are not these companies registering their clothing patterns? We think because they cannot. We think that is because the copyright office won't accept a registration of copyright on the general patterns for clothing, i.e., those lacking "creativity". Simplicity has copyrights on the pattern envelopes, but not the patterns.

if you look on the burda site its possible that its a copyright free pattern as they have quite a few of them
http://www.burdastyle.com/patterns

[Wicked Knits]

From this site http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/Cop ... erns.shtml

A quick check of copyright records does not reveal any copyrights registered with the U.S. Copyright Office for clothing patterns by Simplicity, Butterick, or others. Paragon Patterns has no copyrights but on the web site for Paragon Patterns (http://www.paragonpatterns.com/CompanyPolicies.html) they claim all of their patterns are copyrighted. There are a lot of "patterns" copyrights and many are fabric patterns. Why are not these companies registering their clothing patterns? We think because they cannot. We think that is because the copyright office won't accept a registration of copyright on the general patterns for clothing, i.e., those lacking "creativity". Simplicity has copyrights on the pattern envelopes, but not the patterns.

if you look on the burda site its possible that its a copyright free pattern as they have quite a few of them
http://www.burdastyle.com/patterns

That would be awesome if it is... hope so!

[LuluNZ]

Personally if it is from a big pattern company like burda, I would sell them, it is not like you are mass producing them or anything.

If it had been from a small designer I would have contacted them to ask permission as some are happy for you to sell provided you credit the pattern to them.

Its funny because if it had been a small designer or something I had seen online (or even Ottobre) I would have thought instantly it as a no no. It never even occurred to me that a bought pattern like this would have a copyright until the discussion on selling knitted items.

I can't check the pattern at the moment as I not only have made bags from it to sell but I have also lent it out - another thing that I didn't even think about . I guess my thinking was that I had purchased the pattern so now its mine. But I look at it in the terms of music where you can't legally copy cd's etc and it all makes sense. Makes me feel a little foolish TBH .

I've sent an email to Burda.

[Gaia]

Lulu ...do not stress.
i am sure that women have been borrowing patterns off each other since time began.

[SamG]

Lulu ...do not stress.
i am sure that women have been borrowing patterns off each other since time began.

i agree completely ... we are only human